世界最大化

Ep.19 – 台灣最會嘴的人來了!周杰倫曾向他拜師學藝!台灣Beatbox達人ECHO李昶俊秀口技 | 世界最大化 feat. ECHO李昶俊

Episode Summary

在2006年的時候,奪得台灣節奏口技大賽的冠軍,在2012年也參加過超級模王大道,甚至曾經是周杰倫的Beatbox老師,沒錯!就是Beatbox達人ECHO李昶俊來啦!這次來World Gym要和大家分享他玩Beatbox的心路歷程,並且現場即興表演Beatbox,展現他的超強神技。

Episode Notes

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👉 01:41 ECHO幾歲開始學Beatbox
👉 02:21 ECHO&主持人唱歌
👉 03:42 ECHO為什麼開始接觸Beatbox?
👉 06:28 ECHO在超級模王大道的經歷
👉 09:58 ECHO如何學Beatbox?
👉 11:30 ECHO當過街頭藝人
👉 12:32 ECHO有在YouTube上傳Beatbox教學影片
👉 13:58 ECHO平常練習很吵,房東很討厭他
👉 15:22 ECHO表演Beatbox
👉 17:56 ECHO平時如何保養喉嚨?
👉 19:44 ECHO的運動習慣
👉 21:41 Beatbox可以當飯吃嗎?
👉 23:24 周杰倫曾找ECHO拜師學藝
👉 24:02 會Beatbox的人很會喇舌?
👉 24:21 如何堅持學Beatbox
👉 26:43 ECHO透過電話跟別人學Beatbox
👉 28:44 ECHO高中的時候

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Episode Transcription

1 00:00:02,304 --> 00:00:04,160 世界最大化開播到現在

2 00:00:04,288 --> 00:00:06,400 換我們要來聽聽你的聲音囉

3 00:00:06,592 --> 00:00:09,024 告訴我們你想聽到哪些主題

4 00:00:09,152 --> 00:00:10,880 期待哪些內容

5 00:00:11,008 --> 00:00:14,656 請你到描述點選問卷連結

6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,472 告訴我們你想聽的 你想知道的

7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,245 所有你的回饋

8 00:00:19,245 --> 00:00:21,888 我們會抽出幸運兒送你小禮物唷

9 00:00:22,039 --> 00:00:25,943 當然也別忘了到Apple Podcast給我們五星評價

10 00:00:26,071 --> 00:00:27,479 有任何的批評指教

11 00:00:27,543 --> 00:00:30,167 也歡迎在問卷裡留言告訴我們

12 00:00:30,295 --> 00:00:32,663 你的意見我們非常重視

13 00:00:47,390 --> 00:00:50,270 歡迎收聽世界最大化

14 00:00:52,318 --> 00:00:53,534 哈囉大家好

15 00:00:53,598 --> 00:00:55,326 我是World Gym的專屬主持人

16 00:00:55,390 --> 00:00:56,862 我是廖小白

17 00:00:57,502 --> 00:01:01,022 你今天一定要收聽收看

18 00:01:01,150 --> 00:01:01,918 為什麼呢

19 00:01:02,046 --> 00:01:05,374 因為我們今天邀請到了一位重量級的

20 00:01:09,050 --> 00:01:11,413 我真的還是真不太會

21 00:01:11,413 --> 00:01:11,875 沒錯

22 00:01:11,875 --> 00:01:14,933 我們今天邀請到的就是Beatbox的那個人

23 00:01:14,940 --> 00:01:16,412 ECHO李昶俊

24 00:01:16,726 --> 00:01:18,070 Kate妳好

25 00:01:18,326 --> 00:01:20,630 各位觀眾大家好

26 00:01:20,694 --> 00:01:22,422 我是ECHO

27 00:01:30,166 --> 00:01:31,894 有沒有聽過這麼棒的開場

28 00:01:32,022 --> 00:01:32,406 沒錯

29 00:01:32,534 --> 00:01:36,950 今天我們邀請到了ECHO就是要告訴你那些讓我們

30 00:01:38,038 --> 00:01:40,790 覺得好奇的Beatbox到底是什麼呢

31 00:01:41,046 --> 00:01:44,438 ECHO你幾歲開始學Beatbox

32 00:01:44,576 --> 00:01:48,662 我從十七歲開始接觸到現在也十七年了

33 00:01:48,694 --> 00:01:50,038 兩個十七年

34 00:01:50,038 --> 00:01:50,525 對

35 00:01:50,653 --> 00:01:51,421 好特別喔

36 00:01:51,549 --> 00:01:53,021 所以他保養還不錯啦齁

37 00:01:53,021 --> 00:01:53,940 大家看一下ECHO

38 00:01:53,940 --> 00:01:58,484 其實就是靠著Beatbox所以才能保持這麼年輕 不是吧

39 00:01:58,612 --> 00:01:59,508 靠運動吧

40 00:01:59,636 --> 00:02:04,244 欸其實還是有Beatbox對臉部的那個運動

41 00:02:04,436 --> 00:02:07,025 現在不是流行臉部瑜珈嗎

42 00:02:07,025 --> 00:02:07,500 對

43 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,672 那Beatbox其實會幫助

44 00:02:09,992 --> 00:02:13,704 所以Beatbox就是類似臉部瑜珈的意思對不對

45 00:02:13,768 --> 00:02:16,200 我們就是site放ECHO好不好

46 00:02:16,456 --> 00:02:17,800 好啦今天呢

47 00:02:17,864 --> 00:02:21,256 邀請到了這麼厲害的Beatbox高手

48 00:02:21,384 --> 00:02:22,408 當然不能浪費

49 00:02:22,536 --> 00:02:23,112 不能浪費

50 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,456 Beatbox的那一個

51 00:02:24,648 --> 00:02:27,656 我們首先要請他先來唱一首抒情歌吧

52 00:02:27,848 --> 00:02:29,320 沒問題啊

53 00:02:29,448 --> 00:02:30,600 Kate要不要一起唱

54 00:02:31,112 --> 00:02:32,584 來cue

55 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,016 這一段沒有re過的喔

56 00:02:35,016 --> 00:02:35,848 三天三夜

57 00:02:36,168 --> 00:02:37,192 三天三夜

58 00:02:38,216 --> 00:02:38,650 不行

59 00:02:38,650 --> 00:02:39,674 我怕你會飆高音

60 00:02:40,109 --> 00:02:41,005 我們再換一首

61 00:02:41,069 --> 00:02:42,029 我幫妳打節奏

62 00:02:42,669 --> 00:02:45,677 那我可以唱那個跟你拜師學藝的那一個

63 00:02:46,637 --> 00:02:47,725 周杰倫好不好

64 00:02:47,853 --> 00:02:48,365 唉唷

65 00:02:48,941 --> 00:02:49,453 這個

66 00:02:49,517 --> 00:02:50,093 講到我

67 00:02:50,221 --> 00:02:52,333 唉唷 那我幫妳伴奏一下

68 00:02:53,677 --> 00:02:54,150 Ok ok

69 00:02:54,150 --> 00:02:54,866 妳要唱什麼歌

70 00:02:54,866 --> 00:02:55,186 唉唷

71 00:02:55,634 --> 00:02:58,898 能不能給我一首歌的時間

72 00:02:59,090 --> 00:03:02,738 緊緊把我幫妳放在永遠

73 00:03:02,866 --> 00:03:06,450 我的懷裡妳不用害怕一切

74 00:03:06,578 --> 00:03:10,098 如果妳想忘記我也能失憶

75 00:03:10,162 --> 00:03:12,594 的永遠

76 00:03:14,514 --> 00:03:14,898 唉唷

77 00:03:15,282 --> 00:03:15,986 不錯吧

78 00:03:15,986 --> 00:03:16,754 可以可以

79 00:03:17,131 --> 00:03:18,859 欸你要cue我

80 00:03:18,923 --> 00:03:19,883 要跟我講一下

81 00:03:19,947 --> 00:03:20,779 我要看一下歌詞

82 00:03:20,779 --> 00:03:21,250 看一下歌詞

83 00:03:21,250 --> 00:03:22,850 啊不然我這樣子也是有偶包的

84 00:03:23,490 --> 00:03:23,874 有有

85 00:03:24,509 --> 00:03:25,865 可是不錯吧

86 00:03:25,865 --> 00:03:27,657 我們Beatbox的那一個

87 00:03:27,657 --> 00:03:31,433 即興大家比較喜歡(即興馬上就來對不對)

88 00:03:31,738 --> 00:03:32,890 不愧是主持人

89 00:03:32,954 --> 00:03:34,554 一定要我平常都有練的

90 00:03:34,682 --> 00:03:35,066 對啊

91 00:03:35,130 --> 00:03:35,898 一定要一定要

92 00:03:36,026 --> 00:03:37,626 總是要有幾首主題曲

93 00:03:37,754 --> 00:03:38,138 好不好

94 00:03:38,266 --> 00:03:39,226 等下我們再來一首

95 00:03:39,674 --> 00:03:40,314 好啊

96 00:03:40,442 --> 00:03:42,042 那當然要先來聽一下

97 00:03:42,874 --> 00:03:46,586 十七歲到現在十七年

98 00:03:46,714 --> 00:03:47,610 你學了這麼多

99 00:03:47,674 --> 00:03:51,706 我可以問一下就是當時為什麼會接觸Beatbox啊

100 00:03:51,962 --> 00:03:56,314 最早我是學地板的那種Breaking

101 00:03:57,575 --> 00:03:58,506 就是Hip Hop的(Hip Hop)

102 00:03:58,506 --> 00:03:59,978 Locking(對對對)

103 00:04:00,106 --> 00:04:02,474 那之後我朋友給我聽

104 00:04:02,538 --> 00:04:04,458 就聽一下這段

105 00:04:04,842 --> 00:04:05,546 我去聽

106 00:04:05,802 --> 00:04:06,826 你要給我聽什麼

107 00:04:06,890 --> 00:04:07,402 就音樂嘛

108 00:04:07,530 --> 00:04:07,978 對

109 00:04:08,106 --> 00:04:08,874 他說沒有沒有

110 00:04:08,938 --> 00:04:12,522 剛你所聽到的音樂都是人的嘴巴弄出來

111 00:04:12,714 --> 00:04:13,811 對啊對啊 就是

112 00:04:14,181 --> 00:04:16,348 大家都年輕過都應該有學過一點點

113 00:04:16,348 --> 00:04:17,308 街舞Locking

114 00:04:17,372 --> 00:04:18,332 對啊(對不對)

115 00:04:18,524 --> 00:04:20,508 所以音樂其實都是很嘻哈的

116 00:04:20,636 --> 00:04:22,940 然後也很 有一點點重金屬

117 00:04:23,324 --> 00:04:24,732 有重金屬嗎

118 00:04:24,732 --> 00:04:25,366 有一點 就是

119 00:04:25,970 --> 00:04:29,084 但那時候我聽到的那個人叫做Rahzel

120 00:04:29,334 --> 00:04:33,558 他被稱呼為Beatbox的神

121 00:04:33,942 --> 00:04:34,326 唉唷

122 00:04:34,518 --> 00:04:36,822 The godfather of noise

123 00:04:36,886 --> 00:04:37,398 有

124 00:04:37,462 --> 00:04:38,998 你分享的時候

125 00:04:39,062 --> 00:04:44,310 我大概有去查一下很棒的一個嘻哈教父

126 00:04:44,438 --> 00:04:47,510 而且在音樂上很多的結合

127 00:04:47,638 --> 00:04:49,430 他等於說是融會貫通

128 00:04:49,494 --> 00:04:51,286 不是只有就是我們認知的Beatbox

129 00:04:51,350 --> 00:04:53,142 他是連音樂的整合

130 00:04:53,398 --> 00:04:55,638 對他很屌(很棒欸)

131 00:04:55,702 --> 00:04:58,006 他很多音效都是從他那邊學

132 00:04:58,134 --> 00:05:00,510 就是他有邊唱邊做節奏

133 00:05:00,612 --> 00:05:03,031 我可以示範一下他那個時候做的

134 00:05:03,112 --> 00:05:03,944 然後我被嚇到

135 00:05:04,264 --> 00:05:05,288 你被嚇到

136 00:05:26,331 --> 00:05:29,523 他是做這些特別音效把它融合

137 00:05:29,779 --> 00:05:33,811 所以會唱 同時也會懂得用Beatbox把它給加進去

138 00:05:33,811 --> 00:05:34,387 對對對

139 00:05:34,515 --> 00:05:37,139 後來我是因為學他這個之後

140 00:05:37,203 --> 00:05:37,971 我就覺得哇

141 00:05:38,099 --> 00:05:39,827 那我要自己做變化

142 00:05:40,019 --> 00:05:43,283 所以我那時候聽大支有做金包銀

143 00:05:43,603 --> 00:05:46,099 別人的性命

144 00:05:46,419 --> 00:05:48,979 可是我用成另外一種感覺就是

145 00:05:49,171 --> 00:05:51,155 別人的性命

146 00:05:51,347 --> 00:05:53,843 是框金又包銀

147 00:05:53,971 --> 00:05:56,083 然後加自己的特色就是ECHO

148 00:06:04,321 --> 00:06:06,369 別人的性命

149 00:06:06,472 --> 00:06:08,776 是框金又包銀

150 00:06:09,550 --> 00:06:14,088 這個好像是在那個KTV echo開太大聲的地方(開太大)

151 00:06:14,828 --> 00:06:15,788 欸麻煩一下

152 00:06:15,852 --> 00:06:18,092 幫我們調整一下調整一下

153 00:06:18,220 --> 00:06:19,436 好厲害喔

154 00:06:19,700 --> 00:06:20,204 謝謝

155 00:06:20,268 --> 00:06:20,908 對啊

156 00:06:21,036 --> 00:06:25,132 這個外面 攝影棚外面應該大家都以為我們這邊在開趴了

157 00:06:25,196 --> 00:06:26,220 其實沒有

158 00:06:26,348 --> 00:06:28,524 今天是ECHO來表演好不好

159 00:06:28,652 --> 00:06:30,316 那當然我們很好奇

160 00:06:30,380 --> 00:06:31,916 因為Beatbox在台灣來講

161 00:06:31,980 --> 00:06:34,220 其實有一點點像口技

162 00:06:35,052 --> 00:06:36,780 因為我們就是知道(統稱嘛)

163 00:06:36,908 --> 00:06:37,804 對口技

164 00:06:37,868 --> 00:06:39,276 然後也有人叫Beatbox

165 00:06:39,340 --> 00:06:41,772 那Beatbox當然是從國外進來的

166 00:06:41,836 --> 00:06:44,076 你從十七歲開始學

167 00:06:44,204 --> 00:06:46,252 然後兩千零六年的時候

168 00:06:46,316 --> 00:06:47,631 也有參加過口技大賽

169 00:06:47,631 --> 00:06:48,876 還拿下了冠軍

170 00:06:49,206 --> 00:06:51,510 那接下來又在二零一二年的時候

171 00:06:51,574 --> 00:06:54,006 我覺得這算是一個非常大的一個契機

172 00:06:54,159 --> 00:06:56,847 就是超級模王大道

173 00:06:56,941 --> 00:06:57,837 超級模王大道

174 00:06:57,901 --> 00:07:00,461 是一個給我非常好的機會

175 00:07:00,589 --> 00:07:04,109 因為它的類型很廣泛

176 00:07:04,301 --> 00:07:05,453 你只要能模仿

177 00:07:05,581 --> 00:07:10,445 不管你模仿人物 聲音 音樂都可以

178 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,909 所以當時大概整個賽事大概多長的時間啊

179 00:07:17,042 --> 00:07:19,154 然後準備了大概多久(整個錄有半年)

180 00:07:19,346 --> 00:07:20,306 半年的時間

181 00:07:20,434 --> 00:07:21,778 然後有二十二集

182 00:07:22,610 --> 00:07:25,106 然後它每一個禮拜

183 00:07:25,234 --> 00:07:26,642 每兩個禮拜錄兩集

184 00:07:26,770 --> 00:07:27,986 所以一次錄兩集

185 00:07:28,242 --> 00:07:30,674 你如果準備好兩集的內容

186 00:07:31,122 --> 00:07:32,146 你第一集被淘汰

187 00:07:32,210 --> 00:07:33,938 第二集也不用回來(沒有機會了)

188 00:07:34,002 --> 00:07:34,962 就回家了

189 00:07:35,026 --> 00:07:36,754 謝謝就是出口

190 00:07:36,818 --> 00:07:37,330 對對對

191 00:07:37,394 --> 00:07:39,890 所以當時其實算壓力很大(很大)

192 00:07:39,954 --> 00:07:40,914 而且二十二集

193 00:07:40,978 --> 00:07:43,538 哪來那麼多Beatbox的東西可以做創作

194 00:07:43,602 --> 00:07:44,818 其實很燒腦吧

195 00:07:44,882 --> 00:07:45,330 很燒腦

196 00:07:45,394 --> 00:07:48,082 所以我那時候瘦了六公斤

197 00:07:48,146 --> 00:07:50,514 所以如果你現在要再瘦六公斤

198 00:07:50,642 --> 00:07:51,154 好不好

199 00:07:51,282 --> 00:07:53,458 大家鼓勵一下ECHO

200 00:07:53,650 --> 00:07:54,262 再比一次

201 00:07:54,262 --> 00:07:54,866 再比一次

202 00:07:55,606 --> 00:07:56,694 可以可以可以

203 00:07:56,694 --> 00:07:57,526 沒有啦

204 00:07:57,654 --> 00:07:59,912 當然就是要讓你經歷過這樣

205 00:07:59,912 --> 00:08:01,878 你才會覺得 哇真的Beatbox

206 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,512 你雖然是從興趣開始學

207 00:08:04,576 --> 00:08:06,880 可是其實激勵你很多的可能是這個比賽

208 00:08:07,008 --> 00:08:08,672 然後讓你有很多的創作

209 00:08:08,736 --> 00:08:09,760 也被大家看到啦

210 00:08:09,824 --> 00:08:11,040 也是很感謝大家

211 00:08:11,168 --> 00:08:12,576 那時候你幾歲啊

212 00:08:12,896 --> 00:08:14,880 二十六

213 00:08:15,328 --> 00:08:17,120 二十六對

214 00:08:17,184 --> 00:08:18,208 二十六歲的時候

215 00:08:18,336 --> 00:08:19,744 然後用Beatbox

216 00:08:19,808 --> 00:08:24,032 你覺得那時候讓你最印象深刻的一道題目是什麼

217 00:08:24,288 --> 00:08:27,040 因為你說它可能前兩三天才給你們的題目

218 00:08:27,232 --> 00:08:28,512 然後馬上準備

219 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,200 然後隔兩三天馬上上場

220 00:08:31,712 --> 00:08:32,480 比賽

221 00:08:32,608 --> 00:08:33,696 超緊繃的

222 00:08:33,888 --> 00:08:34,848 來一段吧

223 00:08:34,976 --> 00:08:36,512 當時讓你最深刻的(那時候)

224 00:08:37,152 --> 00:08:40,288 有準備一段就是跟動畫合作的

225 00:08:40,544 --> 00:08:44,320 動畫就是有那種2D投影式的

226 00:08:44,512 --> 00:08:47,072 然後就是譬如說小狗經過

227 00:08:58,315 --> 00:09:00,129 然後那個也有小鳥叫

228 00:09:09,267 --> 00:09:10,355 再來是大象

229 00:09:23,155 --> 00:09:23,987 會不會暴音

230 00:09:25,523 --> 00:09:26,803 好厲害喔

231 00:09:27,123 --> 00:09:30,963 旁邊沒有放那個收音機

232 00:09:31,027 --> 00:09:32,051 所以沒有任何

233 00:09:32,179 --> 00:09:33,971 完全就是從他的嘴巴出來的

234 00:09:34,099 --> 00:09:34,867 太可怕了

235 00:09:34,931 --> 00:09:35,571 然後也有

236 00:09:36,083 --> 00:09:39,923 做最後的投影是直升機

237 00:09:41,331 --> 00:09:43,827 從遠到近這樣子 近來這樣

238 00:09:55,312 --> 00:09:57,104 降落了降落了降落了降落了

239 00:09:58,128 --> 00:09:58,768 太強了

240 00:09:58,768 --> 00:10:00,816 所以你那時候到底是怎麼去揣摩這些

241 00:10:00,816 --> 00:10:05,424 因為其實你說剛開始你是因為學街舞才開始接觸的(接觸到)

242 00:10:05,552 --> 00:10:06,448 那接觸的時候

243 00:10:06,576 --> 00:10:09,840 其實台灣那時候應該也沒有什麼人在學Beatbox

244 00:10:09,968 --> 00:10:11,760 你其實根本沒有補習班吧

245 00:10:11,824 --> 00:10:13,040 你沒有辦法拜師學藝

246 00:10:13,104 --> 00:10:13,936 對啊怎麼可能

247 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,920 對啊那你怎麼學啊

248 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,480 那時候就有流行MP3

249 00:10:18,864 --> 00:10:20,144 那個錄音的有沒有

250 00:10:20,723 --> 00:10:22,018 只有4G 8G

251 00:10:22,018 --> 00:10:23,042 現在可能大家不知道

252 00:10:23,234 --> 00:10:24,194 欸我知道我知道

253 00:10:24,322 --> 00:10:26,498 4G 8G那個容量很小(對)

254 00:10:27,163 --> 00:10:29,250 可能還沒有那麼大的容量

255 00:10:29,403 --> 00:10:32,283 然後我就是用這個來記錄生活

256 00:10:32,347 --> 00:10:33,376 比如說小鳥叫

257 00:10:33,376 --> 00:10:34,528 然後錄一錄

258 00:10:34,656 --> 00:10:36,832 然後發現欸小鳥晚上不會叫

259 00:10:38,624 --> 00:10:39,712 因為牠們都睡覺了

260 00:10:39,776 --> 00:10:40,352 妳不知道

261 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:41,632 這是冷知識

262 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,360 這個題外話

263 00:10:43,552 --> 00:10:45,216 下一題下一題

264 00:10:45,344 --> 00:10:47,072 然後就是這樣子錄啊

265 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,120 然後終於有一天

266 00:10:49,312 --> 00:10:50,144 我的朋友

267 00:10:50,272 --> 00:10:52,128 他們要辦一個舞展

268 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,152 然後我說

269 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,288 那我可不可以也小秀一段在裡面

270 00:10:56,416 --> 00:10:59,360 因為那時候我住台東(放了一個梗)

271 00:10:59,808 --> 00:11:03,648 台東沒有人聽過Beatbox這個東西

272 00:11:03,776 --> 00:11:05,056 因為大家都是天籟

273 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,896 然後就準備了兩個禮拜

274 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,160 上來之後發現大家好喜歡哦

275 00:11:12,864 --> 00:11:13,696 開心

276 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,960 然後發現這個反饋呢

277 00:11:17,088 --> 00:11:19,136 讓我很想要再表演

278 00:11:19,264 --> 00:11:20,736 所以我上了大學啊

279 00:11:20,992 --> 00:11:24,064 然後一有機會我都會參加一些表演

280 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,520 然後就慢慢往這個表演的路走

281 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,312 才到現在

282 00:11:30,144 --> 00:11:33,024 所以其實堅持的這一段應該算很辛苦欸

283 00:11:33,152 --> 00:11:36,032 因為其實第一個你就是自己慢慢摸索

284 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,656 然後第二個就是根本沒有人可以教你

285 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:39,808 你就是自學

286 00:11:40,064 --> 00:11:41,344 就一直撞壁啊

287 00:11:41,408 --> 00:11:43,520 我那時候學到了一陣子之後

288 00:11:43,648 --> 00:11:45,760 就是真的很想要找舞台

289 00:11:45,952 --> 00:11:49,280 然後發現最好的舞台是什麼

290 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:50,944 就是街頭

291 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,696 所以你也當過街頭藝人囉

292 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,576 有當過幾年的時間

293 00:11:56,704 --> 00:12:00,480 但是很密集的是有一個半年是我大學畢業的時候

294 00:12:00,544 --> 00:12:02,912 直接就衝到台北

295 00:12:03,488 --> 00:12:06,240 信義街頭(香榭廣場)

296 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:07,840 香榭大道

297 00:12:07,968 --> 00:12:09,376 然後馬上放了一個

298 00:12:09,568 --> 00:12:11,936 然後就那個(表演箱)

299 00:12:11,936 --> 00:12:12,725 一個帽子

300 00:12:12,725 --> 00:12:13,200 對

301 00:12:13,693 --> 00:12:16,189 真的大家對街頭藝人的印象欸

302 00:12:16,253 --> 00:12:16,829 就是這樣

303 00:12:16,957 --> 00:12:18,365 啊你就站在那裡

304 00:12:18,493 --> 00:12:19,046 啊就一直

305 00:12:19,366 --> 00:12:20,992 風吹雨淋日曬

306 00:12:21,076 --> 00:12:22,164 沒那麼可憐啦

307 00:12:22,228 --> 00:12:23,124 差不多啦差不多

308 00:12:23,252 --> 00:12:25,300 風吹雨淋怎麼會有人去聽

309 00:12:25,620 --> 00:12:27,028 就大家都聽不到你的聲音

310 00:12:27,092 --> 00:12:27,988 就只有聽到雨聲啊

311 00:12:28,116 --> 00:12:30,228 所以那樣子待一整天才四十五塊

312 00:12:32,950 --> 00:12:34,480 就是其實真的很辛苦

313 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,744 因為ECHO其實他本科不是學音樂的

314 00:12:37,872 --> 00:12:43,632 然後自己真的是憑藉他對Beatbox的喜好

315 00:12:43,824 --> 00:12:44,272 是

316 00:12:44,528 --> 00:12:47,024 所以你那時候學了那麼多

317 00:12:48,112 --> 00:12:51,056 就是也算是滿心酸的

318 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,104 因為這個過程對啊

319 00:12:53,168 --> 00:12:54,000 要自己學

320 00:12:54,064 --> 00:12:55,728 然後又四十五塊錢

321 00:12:55,984 --> 00:12:56,944 就慢慢來啊

322 00:12:57,072 --> 00:12:59,248 就是你真的想要學到這個技能

323 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,448 你就得花費更多的心力

324 00:13:02,512 --> 00:13:04,880 因為我們有看到就是你現在抖音

325 00:13:04,944 --> 00:13:05,968 或者是YouTube

326 00:13:06,032 --> 00:13:07,696 一直在教學大家說

327 00:13:07,824 --> 00:13:09,360 我要怎麼樣子去學

328 00:13:10,100 --> 00:13:10,576 鼓聲

329 00:13:11,237 --> 00:13:13,093 學BASS

330 00:13:13,325 --> 00:13:14,420 欸其他的

331 00:13:14,420 --> 00:13:16,148 其實你很願意教人家

332 00:13:16,276 --> 00:13:17,940 是啊不怕人家偷

333 00:13:18,068 --> 00:13:18,708 為什麼

334 00:13:18,772 --> 00:13:20,052 因為這個東西算是

335 00:13:20,884 --> 00:13:22,420 你要把它像教科書一樣

336 00:13:22,484 --> 00:13:24,404 把它就是教學化

337 00:13:25,020 --> 00:13:25,748 整理化

338 00:13:25,748 --> 00:13:27,348 是不是有一個訣竅

339 00:13:28,351 --> 00:13:29,503 出書了嗎 要嗎

340 00:13:30,271 --> 00:13:31,551 等妳幫忙

341 00:13:32,293 --> 00:13:34,111 出版社趕快聯絡好不好

342 00:13:34,347 --> 00:13:35,371 Beatbox的那一個

343 00:13:35,435 --> 00:13:38,379 現在也要出書了(有啦之前翰林出版社有找我)

344 00:13:38,699 --> 00:13:42,219 有把一部分的內容放到教材裡面

345 00:13:42,987 --> 00:13:44,715 因為Beatbox算是這幾年

346 00:13:44,779 --> 00:13:46,507 很多年輕人

347 00:13:46,699 --> 00:13:47,659 都很喜歡

348 00:13:47,723 --> 00:13:48,427 很喜歡

349 00:13:48,555 --> 00:13:49,579 因為這就像你嘛

350 00:13:49,643 --> 00:13:50,411 跳舞 跳一跳

351 00:13:50,539 --> 00:13:51,563 來段

352 00:13:51,755 --> 00:13:53,291 不然就是唱歌唱一唱

353 00:13:53,355 --> 00:13:54,251 馬上來一段

354 00:13:54,315 --> 00:13:57,003 都會吸到別人的耳朵嘛

355 00:13:57,675 --> 00:13:58,317 那會不會

356 00:13:58,317 --> 00:13:59,405 其實我那時候

357 00:13:59,725 --> 00:14:02,221 我平常練習就是很吵

358 00:14:02,413 --> 00:14:02,861 有沒有

359 00:14:03,053 --> 00:14:03,501 很吵

360 00:14:03,757 --> 00:14:06,509 可是有很大的動力是

361 00:14:06,637 --> 00:14:10,477 因為其實大家對Beatbox又有一點陌生

362 00:14:10,605 --> 00:14:12,909 但是聽到的時候又蠻喜歡的

363 00:14:13,037 --> 00:14:15,405 因為其實是很很和諧的

364 00:14:15,405 --> 00:14:15,907 就是你

365 00:14:15,907 --> 00:14:16,931 不管是跟音樂

366 00:14:16,995 --> 00:14:17,763 或者是你自己

367 00:14:17,827 --> 00:14:19,171 只是單純節拍

368 00:14:19,299 --> 00:14:20,835 就是會接的很緊湊

369 00:14:20,963 --> 00:14:22,627 然後組合的很微妙

370 00:14:22,691 --> 00:14:24,227 這也算是一種創作啊

371 00:14:24,355 --> 00:14:26,659 所以本來我的房東很討厭我

372 00:14:26,851 --> 00:14:29,731 就不打算租給你

373 00:14:29,859 --> 00:14:32,995 然後就開始就是我跟他講說

374 00:14:32,995 --> 00:14:34,147 我是創作歌手

375 00:14:34,147 --> 00:14:36,515 然後他也嗯我不知道

376 00:14:36,643 --> 00:14:38,371 他沒有在乎這樣子

377 00:14:38,462 --> 00:14:40,318 然後因為他住我隔壁而已

378 00:14:40,958 --> 00:14:42,110 隔著一扇門

379 00:14:42,713 --> 00:14:43,803 常常聽到

380 00:14:43,803 --> 00:14:45,211 他本來就是臉臭臭的

381 00:14:45,467 --> 00:14:46,555 然後過一陣子

382 00:14:46,619 --> 00:14:49,563 我是待在房間一直在那邊 唱歌啊什麼的

383 00:14:49,563 --> 00:14:53,370 然後他 有一次就是我們在等電梯

384 00:14:53,370 --> 00:14:55,802 他說ECHO

385 00:14:56,175 --> 00:14:58,106 剛剛那些音樂是你弄得嗎

386 00:14:58,500 --> 00:14:59,660 對對對

387 00:15:00,575 --> 00:15:01,407 好好聽喔

388 00:15:01,471 --> 00:15:04,095 就是變成笑臉迎人了有沒有

389 00:15:04,159 --> 00:15:06,527 就覺得怎麼跟原本的那個

390 00:15:06,975 --> 00:15:08,639 原本嫌你吵(對)

391 00:15:08,703 --> 00:15:09,279 怕你吵

392 00:15:09,343 --> 00:15:11,007 結果呢 不錯不錯

393 00:15:11,071 --> 00:15:12,031 馬上給你個讚

394 00:15:12,159 --> 00:15:12,543 對

395 00:15:12,607 --> 00:15:14,271 所以其實你還

396 00:15:14,335 --> 00:15:15,103 還滿好笑的

397 00:15:15,167 --> 00:15:15,551 對啊

398 00:15:16,093 --> 00:15:18,367 其實你是有用音樂感動他的(有啦)

399 00:15:18,681 --> 00:15:20,584 對不對那好啦

400 00:15:20,584 --> 00:15:21,978 話不多說

401 00:15:22,042 --> 00:15:25,306 我們就是剛剛他只有小秀一段對不對

402 00:15:25,498 --> 00:15:28,186 我們是不是應該要來試試看他

403 00:15:29,146 --> 00:15:30,362 到底是不是真的(這什麼)

404 00:15:31,514 --> 00:15:33,562 就是讓你抽一個

405 00:15:33,626 --> 00:15:35,418 然後你就要馬上學它的聲音

406 00:15:35,802 --> 00:15:36,122 好

407 00:15:36,378 --> 00:15:36,954 有壓力嗎

408 00:15:37,402 --> 00:15:37,850 不會啊

409 00:15:37,914 --> 00:15:39,834 有壓力我們就沒關係 沒關係

410 00:15:40,666 --> 00:15:41,218 可以啦

411 00:15:41,218 --> 00:15:41,788 可以可以可以可以

412 00:15:41,788 --> 00:15:42,373 抽一個

413 00:15:42,373 --> 00:15:42,757 好

414 00:15:44,201 --> 00:15:46,569 槓片掉落的聲音

415 00:15:47,401 --> 00:15:48,553 好啦健身房

416 00:15:48,745 --> 00:15:49,897 你對不對

417 00:15:50,089 --> 00:15:52,009 一個禮拜會去個兩三次吧

418 00:15:52,195 --> 00:15:53,289 嗯OK

419 00:15:55,832 --> 00:15:59,160 最高品質靜悄悄

420 00:16:06,724 --> 00:16:08,248 我的槓片勒

421 00:16:08,365 --> 00:16:09,389 我的槓片勒

422 00:16:09,517 --> 00:16:10,733 你知道健身房

423 00:16:10,797 --> 00:16:12,397 它們的地是軟的

424 00:16:12,717 --> 00:16:13,688 所以它不會

425 00:16:18,850 --> 00:16:19,450 誰出的

426 00:16:20,823 --> 00:16:23,447 好啦 再給你一次機會了喔好不好

427 00:16:23,575 --> 00:16:29,335 明天好不好明天ECHO會出現在長春店馬上去揣摩一下槓片掉落的聲音

428 00:16:29,527 --> 00:16:31,575 由此可知你沒有練過喔

429 00:16:31,703 --> 00:16:32,919 再來一次

430 00:16:33,111 --> 00:16:35,287 原來都給我這種奇怪的題目

431 00:16:35,351 --> 00:16:38,807 跑步機運轉的聲音

432 00:16:40,151 --> 00:16:41,367 需要有人跑步嗎

433 00:16:41,879 --> 00:16:42,775 當然要啊

434 00:16:45,719 --> 00:16:46,551 沒關係沒關係

435 00:16:46,615 --> 00:16:47,383 傻眼

436 00:16:48,471 --> 00:16:49,303 好跑步

437 00:16:58,327 --> 00:16:59,607 好不像不像不像

438 00:16:59,671 --> 00:17:04,471 好我會提醒就是那個跑帶記得上油了好不好

439 00:17:05,111 --> 00:17:07,351 所以其實真的不好揣摩欸

440 00:17:07,460 --> 00:17:08,868 欸你下次(我應該模仿)

441 00:17:08,932 --> 00:17:10,148 你還要繼續你還要繼續

442 00:17:11,950 --> 00:17:12,675 槓片

443 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:17,453 大家對於這種應該沒有那麼好奇了吧

444 00:17:18,370 --> 00:17:20,354 森林之王 森林之王

445 00:17:21,314 --> 00:17:21,890 是什麼

446 00:17:21,901 --> 00:17:22,413 獅子

447 00:17:23,184 --> 00:17:24,016 獅子的聲音

448 00:17:28,432 --> 00:17:29,411 好啦有點冷

449 00:17:29,411 --> 00:17:30,819 不好意思 不好意思

450 00:17:31,139 --> 00:17:33,187 撕紙撕紙

451 00:17:33,379 --> 00:17:34,531 我們是要獅子

452 00:17:34,851 --> 00:17:35,363 獅子

453 00:17:35,427 --> 00:17:36,195 我們要獅子

454 00:17:36,323 --> 00:17:37,603 有雲豹可以嗎

455 00:17:38,051 --> 00:17:38,947 可以啦

456 00:17:39,343 --> 00:17:40,431 不用勉強

457 00:17:41,992 --> 00:17:43,367 來 馬上就來

458 00:17:43,751 --> 00:17:44,455 雲豹

459 00:17:50,950 --> 00:17:52,035 好啦好啦

460 00:17:52,035 --> 00:17:53,379 勉勉強強好不好

461 00:17:53,443 --> 00:17:54,403 勉勉強強啦

462 00:17:54,467 --> 00:17:56,067 可以嗎 可以嗎

463 00:17:56,771 --> 00:17:57,539 聊那麼多

464 00:17:57,603 --> 00:17:59,331 我們就先讓他休息一下

465 00:17:59,331 --> 00:18:04,515 因為其實剛剛就是ECHO有提到他在訓練的過程當中很傷喉嚨

466 00:18:04,643 --> 00:18:07,075 而且其實平常的保養要做的很好

467 00:18:07,715 --> 00:18:09,059 還還行

468 00:18:09,698 --> 00:18:13,783 你除了平常就是在練習的時候會不時的亂噴口水之外

469 00:18:13,783 --> 00:18:16,408 嘴巴的訓練 還有咀嚼肌是不是

470 00:18:16,984 --> 00:18:20,568 面部啊是不是自己都會讓偶爾休息一下

471 00:18:21,336 --> 00:18:23,896 其實就是睡眠要充足啦

472 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,304 不要太晚睡

473 00:18:26,264 --> 00:18:27,096 睡眠充足

474 00:18:27,224 --> 00:18:29,592 然後喝常溫水

475 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,600 那我自己有幾個禁忌啊

476 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,416 就是真的在大型的表演之前

477 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,896 我會少吃甜食跟炸物

478 00:18:40,251 --> 00:18:41,915 這兩個我比較會注意

479 00:18:42,363 --> 00:18:45,371 其他就都還好吃辣也都OK

480 00:18:45,947 --> 00:18:50,875 算是有一點像就像歌手在保護自己的喉嚨 聲帶一樣

481 00:18:50,939 --> 00:18:52,411 對就是長期的表演之後

482 00:18:52,475 --> 00:18:55,611 你會知道自己需要注意哪一些

483 00:18:55,675 --> 00:18:56,635 就是自己身體狀況

484 00:18:56,699 --> 00:18:58,747 每個人的狀況是不一樣的

485 00:18:59,067 --> 00:19:01,051 那是吃炸物對我來說

486 00:19:01,115 --> 00:19:04,763 就可能它會把身體中的水分稀釋掉

487 00:19:05,019 --> 00:19:06,875 因為它是炸的 它是乾的

488 00:19:07,131 --> 00:19:10,395 那它把喉嚨的一些水分吸走

489 00:19:10,843 --> 00:19:13,979 那糖呢就是比較甜食的東西

490 00:19:14,043 --> 00:19:18,779 它對我的嘴唇有時候它會破掉(太燥)

491 00:19:18,907 --> 00:19:19,675 太燥了

492 00:19:20,955 --> 00:19:23,963 就是吃一吃欸突然嘴唇破了

493 00:19:24,603 --> 00:19:28,443 那我不吃的話 它就不會有這樣的狀況

494 00:19:28,507 --> 00:19:29,979 那我就是會避免這樣子

495 00:19:30,555 --> 00:19:32,731 這是我自己保養的方式

496 00:19:32,859 --> 00:19:38,491 有有我們剛有發現就是ECHO他其實自己都會隨身帶一罐溫開水 常溫水

497 00:19:38,619 --> 00:19:39,515 這常溫水

498 00:19:39,579 --> 00:19:41,499 對對對他自己都會多喝常溫水

499 00:19:41,563 --> 00:19:42,971 其實他在保養上

500 00:19:43,803 --> 00:19:44,891 做得很好

501 00:19:44,955 --> 00:19:47,579 當然運動一定要聊聊你的運動

502 00:19:48,027 --> 00:19:51,675 因為你現在一個禮拜大概有運動幾次啊

503 00:19:51,739 --> 00:19:53,531 然後怎麼樣去做配搭

504 00:19:53,595 --> 00:19:57,371 你看像我們剛剛跟你介紹的槓片掉落的聲音

505 00:19:57,435 --> 00:20:00,109 由此知道你重訓做不夠

506 00:20:00,173 --> 00:20:00,750 可以啦

507 00:20:01,631 --> 00:20:02,911 這個是三角鐵吧

508 00:20:04,325 --> 00:20:06,687 來妳試著妳試著弄一次

509 00:20:07,478 --> 00:20:08,758 這三角鐵吧

510 00:20:09,078 --> 00:20:09,398 對吧

511 00:20:13,942 --> 00:20:14,866 學起來了

512 00:20:15,384 --> 00:20:18,968 我最近連續三天都有運動

513 00:20:19,736 --> 00:20:21,144 都有胸推啊

514 00:20:21,272 --> 00:20:23,832 然後做三角肌

515 00:20:24,792 --> 00:20:25,944 有幫助嗎

516 00:20:26,008 --> 00:20:29,848 因為畢竟像你比較是發聲的

517 00:20:30,296 --> 00:20:32,024 然後還有就是模仿的

518 00:20:32,216 --> 00:20:34,328 那重訓或者是運動

519 00:20:34,456 --> 00:20:35,800 對你來講有什麼幫助啊

520 00:20:36,376 --> 00:20:37,336 吃很重要

521 00:20:37,464 --> 00:20:38,616 最大的幫助

522 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,088 應該是核心啦

523 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,392 因為核心需要發力

524 00:20:42,648 --> 00:20:44,056 這樣 我示範這樣

525 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,424 我一定要站得很挺

526 00:20:46,744 --> 00:20:47,640 坐的很挺這樣子

527 00:21:05,475 --> 00:21:08,198 他就是都是用這邊來支撐

528 00:21:08,198 --> 00:21:09,222 整個HOLD住欸

529 00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:11,775 (感覺得出來)所以我剛剛的聲音算是宏亮的

530 00:21:12,045 --> 00:21:12,500 對

531 00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:13,248 就不會是

532 00:21:13,248 --> 00:21:14,016 很飽滿的

533 00:21:16,875 --> 00:21:18,259 它是可以出力

534 00:21:18,387 --> 00:21:19,027 我沒有

535 00:21:19,027 --> 00:21:19,603 我就是

536 00:21:20,650 --> 00:21:22,490 然後剛剛就是都很順

537 00:21:22,490 --> 00:21:25,114 不會說(不會有斷)不會傷到喉嚨

538 00:21:26,202 --> 00:21:28,122 所以完全就是Beatbox

539 00:21:28,186 --> 00:21:30,746 它就是要像你那麼連貫性

540 00:21:30,810 --> 00:21:32,986 真的要花很多時間吧

541 00:21:33,306 --> 00:21:34,010 所以

542 00:21:34,138 --> 00:21:35,674 還好就是睡醒就會了

543 00:21:38,534 --> 00:21:40,919 我們來看一下粉絲的留言好了

544 00:21:41,495 --> 00:21:42,583 就是還滿好奇

545 00:21:42,647 --> 00:21:45,911 像就是像這樣Beatbox的一個口技

546 00:21:46,103 --> 00:21:48,087 它是可以當飯吃嗎

547 00:21:48,151 --> 00:21:50,199 而且畢竟像可以發展到你這個程度

548 00:21:50,327 --> 00:21:52,631 因為你第一個你得過口技冠軍

549 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:55,319 第二個你在模王大道很亮眼的表現

550 00:21:55,383 --> 00:21:56,727 提醒大家如果要學的話

551 00:21:56,791 --> 00:21:58,455 可以到我的頻道

552 00:21:58,519 --> 00:21:59,799 YouTube頻道有

553 00:21:59,927 --> 00:22:02,295 之前教了一整年的

554 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,343 叫做一週一教學的

555 00:22:05,112 --> 00:22:06,968 Beatbox教學影片

556 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,016 那都講得蠻詳細的

557 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,192 該學到的技巧應該都在裡面

558 00:22:11,704 --> 00:22:12,408 所以

559 00:22:13,496 --> 00:22:15,608 只要學了就有辦法會

560 00:22:15,736 --> 00:22:17,336 就有辦法像你這麼順嗎

561 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,128 還是其實多少

562 00:22:19,192 --> 00:22:21,880 還是要有一點點天份或者是有音樂的(要有決心啦)

563 00:22:22,072 --> 00:22:24,824 決心 因為你學了十七年欸

564 00:22:24,952 --> 00:22:26,936 就是你有真的興趣的話

565 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,752 你就會開始認真學嘛

566 00:22:30,456 --> 00:22:32,696 除非你真的沒有興趣

567 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:33,720 那沒有用啊

568 00:22:34,150 --> 00:22:34,800 不是嗎

569 00:22:35,275 --> 00:22:37,259 那所以它是可以當飯吃嗎

570 00:22:37,707 --> 00:22:38,283 我們的點

571 00:22:38,923 --> 00:22:41,035 因為這個東西第一個不好學

572 00:22:41,099 --> 00:22:45,131 第二個好像就是一個一直要不斷再精進的

573 00:22:45,259 --> 00:22:49,803 然後第三個你還走跳過當街頭藝人

574 00:22:49,867 --> 00:22:50,443 有有有

575 00:22:50,571 --> 00:22:51,531 所以它是穩定的嗎

576 00:22:52,107 --> 00:22:56,587 以一般現在很多年輕人他很喜歡嘻哈文化的人來講

577 00:22:56,715 --> 00:22:57,483 是我的話

578 00:22:57,483 --> 00:22:59,147 我會建議大家

579 00:23:00,107 --> 00:23:01,835 不要把它當成

580 00:23:02,987 --> 00:23:05,547 那麼(嚴肅的)嚴肅的

581 00:23:05,675 --> 00:23:10,155 就是你可以吸收一點這樣子的東西在自己身上

582 00:23:10,219 --> 00:23:12,884 你可以融合各個的元素

583 00:23:12,884 --> 00:23:15,467 譬如說變成你會鋼琴 那你加一點Beatbox

584 00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:16,755 就很加分

585 00:23:17,490 --> 00:23:19,282 那你真的要往那麼專業的

586 00:23:20,178 --> 00:23:21,778 我會建議你找個副業

587 00:23:24,786 --> 00:23:26,157 你剛有提到就是

588 00:23:26,157 --> 00:23:28,589 欸有的人會去拜師學藝

589 00:23:28,781 --> 00:23:29,805 周杰倫跟你學過

590 00:23:30,061 --> 00:23:30,445 唉唷

591 00:23:31,021 --> 00:23:32,941 Kate又提到我 真的還不錯唉唷

592 00:23:33,005 --> 00:23:34,541 滿屌的滿屌的(是你學他還他學你)

593 00:23:34,914 --> 00:23:36,013 嗯都有

594 00:23:36,269 --> 00:23:37,165 都有

595 00:23:37,357 --> 00:23:40,493 所以他會學什麼是有關於就是這類的

596 00:23:41,261 --> 00:23:42,733 因為他演唱會那時候

597 00:23:44,333 --> 00:23:45,293 我忘了是哪一場

598 00:23:45,741 --> 00:23:49,581 反正就是他為了演唱會來找我學一點Beatbox

599 00:23:50,425 --> 00:23:53,497 然後在演唱會的時候就有表演

600 00:23:55,575 --> 00:23:56,633 然後都是我的功勞

601 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,216 標記一下 都是他的功勞好嗎

602 00:24:01,216 --> 00:24:02,234 沒事沒事沒事

603 00:24:02,234 --> 00:24:03,456 所以你很會喇舌嗎

604 00:24:03,882 --> 00:24:06,186 喇舌 喇舌 喇舌

605 00:24:06,314 --> 00:24:07,466 want love

606 00:24:08,810 --> 00:24:11,178 幹嘛突然cue大嘴巴的歌欸

607 00:24:12,254 --> 00:24:14,635 所以像這樣

608 00:24:14,635 --> 00:24:15,915 就是迷

609 00:24:16,490 --> 00:24:17,834 就迷思

610 00:24:17,898 --> 00:24:18,602 馬上call out

611 00:24:18,975 --> 00:24:19,498 好不好

612 00:24:19,498 --> 00:24:20,586 馬上call out

613 00:24:21,375 --> 00:24:25,727 所以像這樣子的一個Beatbox口技啊

614 00:24:25,791 --> 00:24:28,796 其實我覺得大家一定很就是每次都是啊聽的

615 00:24:28,796 --> 00:24:30,463 好好聽好厲害 好好聽好厲害

616 00:24:30,475 --> 00:24:31,563 然後自己想學

617 00:24:31,691 --> 00:24:32,779 我說真的

618 00:24:32,843 --> 00:24:33,803 我真的有上

619 00:24:34,891 --> 00:24:37,003 你的YouTube頻道去偷學一下

620 00:24:37,451 --> 00:24:37,835 但

621 00:24:38,091 --> 00:24:38,539 多久

622 00:24:39,996 --> 00:24:42,300 就搭高鐵的時候就一邊聽一下

623 00:24:42,364 --> 00:24:44,284 然後旁邊人一直在聽聽我講說

624 00:24:46,396 --> 00:24:49,148 而且就是會一直噴口水啊

625 00:24:49,276 --> 00:24:50,492 你就會覺得說

626 00:24:50,748 --> 00:24:52,156 很容易放棄

627 00:24:52,220 --> 00:24:55,100 到底要怎麼樣才會堅持得下去啊

628 00:24:56,060 --> 00:24:57,852 因為真的就是嘴巴會酸

629 00:24:57,916 --> 00:24:58,428 我

630 00:24:59,260 --> 00:25:02,460 我覺得要要能堅持下去

631 00:25:02,460 --> 00:25:06,428 應該就是你要先找到一個有趣的點

632 00:25:07,050 --> 00:25:09,994 妳先把一小段能做出來的話

633 00:25:10,122 --> 00:25:11,658 妳就不會覺得沮喪

634 00:25:12,618 --> 00:25:14,538 你有沒有什麼時刻是

635 00:25:17,035 --> 00:25:17,547 來一段

636 00:25:28,125 --> 00:25:30,365 有沒有就是妳開始在那個節奏裡

637 00:25:30,493 --> 00:25:31,581 先不要管聲音

638 00:25:31,709 --> 00:25:35,293 大家都有一個錯誤的觀念就是你們會

639 00:25:35,357 --> 00:25:37,597 喔這個聲音不好聽(會啊 對啊)

640 00:25:37,725 --> 00:25:38,877 可是(而且會噴口水)

641 00:25:39,453 --> 00:25:41,821 然後又會模仿不到那種聲音

642 00:25:42,205 --> 00:25:43,357 主要是那個節奏感

643 00:25:43,485 --> 00:25:45,661 我學到一個很難的

644 00:25:45,725 --> 00:25:47,709 然後真的會覺得很想放棄

645 00:25:48,477 --> 00:25:49,757 Lip roll就

646 00:25:52,309 --> 00:25:53,205 對你看

647 00:25:56,506 --> 00:25:57,146 差很多

648 00:26:03,162 --> 00:26:03,674 Lip roll

649 00:26:03,727 --> 00:26:05,007 你看我(有啦有)

650 00:26:05,300 --> 00:26:06,287 我的頻道有教學

651 00:26:06,623 --> 00:26:08,471 就是有教學 然後我還去偷學一下

652 00:26:08,471 --> 00:26:10,647 然後就一直覺得自己已經變成歪嘴巴

653 00:26:10,711 --> 00:26:11,735 怎麼還學不出來那種

654 00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:13,399 很圓融的聲音

655 00:26:13,527 --> 00:26:15,895 就是不好學(有一個粉絲還私訊我說)

656 00:26:15,895 --> 00:26:16,475 對啊

657 00:26:16,685 --> 00:26:18,861 因為我前一陣子有在教

658 00:26:18,861 --> 00:26:19,949 然後他說

659 00:26:20,801 --> 00:26:21,761 我住高雄

660 00:26:22,209 --> 00:26:26,945 如果上台北找你學要多少費用什麼

661 00:26:27,798 --> 00:26:29,633 馬上報價

662 00:26:29,823 --> 00:26:31,615 我還是有報價給他聽啦

663 00:26:31,679 --> 00:26:32,383 然後他說

664 00:26:32,511 --> 00:26:36,095 那這個報價是一次就能學會呢

665 00:26:36,898 --> 00:26:39,522 (請收看我的頻道)就是他還在評估成本有沒有

666 00:26:39,650 --> 00:26:40,162 對啊

667 00:26:40,162 --> 00:26:42,393 欸從高雄到台北也是一趟路欸

668 00:26:42,393 --> 00:26:43,225 對啊對啊對啊

669 00:26:43,225 --> 00:26:47,065 可是你之前有講到說你有去學

670 00:26:47,193 --> 00:26:49,305 然後是用電話來教學

671 00:26:49,993 --> 00:26:50,969 很奇妙吧

672 00:26:50,993 --> 00:26:52,081 因為我沒有老師嘛

673 00:26:52,575 --> 00:26:55,200 然後都是要靠自己去揣摩

674 00:26:55,450 --> 00:26:57,444 那有一次我跟朋友聊天說

675 00:26:58,150 --> 00:26:59,343 真的是有點苦惱

676 00:26:59,343 --> 00:27:00,401 每次都靠自己

677 00:27:00,975 --> 00:27:01,459 真的

678 00:27:01,459 --> 00:27:03,527 你有沒有什麼(會瓶頸)朋友會

679 00:27:03,847 --> 00:27:05,747 他說我表哥會一點

680 00:27:06,067 --> 00:27:07,731 然後好像蠻厲害的(大家都會一點)

681 00:27:07,795 --> 00:27:09,203 我就說你電話給我

682 00:27:10,525 --> 00:27:11,699 我半夜打給他喔

683 00:27:12,439 --> 00:27:14,167 我完全不認識

684 00:27:14,167 --> 00:27:14,743 然後他說

685 00:27:15,950 --> 00:27:17,687 喂 你要學Beatbox

686 00:27:18,209 --> 00:27:19,041 才會打給我

687 00:27:19,105 --> 00:27:21,921 然後就在我們電話中

688 00:27:22,433 --> 00:27:22,881 教學

689 00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:25,798 啊那一通電話你講了多久

690 00:27:26,232 --> 00:27:27,846 可能至少半小時一小時

691 00:27:28,806 --> 00:27:31,494 所以其實他只是告訴你說怎麼發聲

692 00:27:31,558 --> 00:27:33,125 然後剩下的還是要自己去(一些技巧啦)

693 00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:34,788 一些觀念

694 00:27:35,561 --> 00:27:36,201 好難哦

695 00:27:36,265 --> 00:27:37,481 因為我看個幾集

696 00:27:37,545 --> 00:27:38,761 我真心覺得就是

697 00:27:38,825 --> 00:27:42,729 哇這個真的是要慢慢去抓到那個訣竅

698 00:27:42,857 --> 00:27:46,633 但我覺得有一個大家可以學的是樂器類

699 00:27:46,761 --> 00:27:47,849 感覺比較容易

700 00:27:53,020 --> 00:27:53,596 是不是

701 00:27:53,925 --> 00:27:54,757 小喇叭(來個)

702 00:27:55,778 --> 00:27:57,058 趕快送上杯

703 00:27:57,378 --> 00:27:58,402 好不好白酒

704 00:27:58,978 --> 00:27:59,362 對

705 00:28:02,870 --> 00:28:04,278 喝口水 喝口水

706 00:28:04,790 --> 00:28:06,454 因為真的其實不好

707 00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:07,862 不容易去揣摩

708 00:28:07,926 --> 00:28:11,446 然後第一個就是嘴巴的型

709 00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:12,598 很難去學

710 00:28:13,622 --> 00:28:15,414 怎麼樣子說欸歪嘴

711 00:28:15,542 --> 00:28:18,294 然後欸裡面的舌頭再捲一下

712 00:28:18,550 --> 00:28:21,622 那個真的是要去心領神會欸

713 00:28:21,995 --> 00:28:23,670 就慢慢的練囉

714 00:28:23,798 --> 00:28:24,225 那個

715 00:28:24,225 --> 00:28:24,920 下功夫

716 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,240 對

717 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:25,816 沒有辦法

718 00:28:26,136 --> 00:28:27,480 下功夫真的

719 00:28:27,544 --> 00:28:28,760 要靠天份

720 00:28:30,971 --> 00:28:31,741 靠天份

721 00:28:31,741 --> 00:28:34,173 你這句話大家就會轉頻道好不好

722 00:28:34,173 --> 00:28:34,813 沒有啦

723 00:28:34,813 --> 00:28:35,325 開玩笑

724 00:28:35,325 --> 00:28:35,709 對不對

725 00:28:35,773 --> 00:28:37,820 轉頻道了好啦(有興趣就會學啦)

726 00:28:37,820 --> 00:28:39,278 真的是(逼他們)

727 00:28:39,278 --> 00:28:40,110 要堅持

728 00:28:40,174 --> 00:28:41,710 因為這個就像運動一樣

729 00:28:41,774 --> 00:28:44,014 或者是說像飲食控制一樣

730 00:28:44,142 --> 00:28:46,638 然後或者是說(其實我說實在的)任何東西

731 00:28:46,702 --> 00:28:48,558 我那時候高中在練嘛

732 00:28:48,686 --> 00:28:50,030 常常在班上

733 00:28:50,094 --> 00:28:52,078 然後老師下課就離開

734 00:28:52,206 --> 00:28:53,870 然後我就會拿老師的麥克風

735 00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:56,422 就會去練

736 00:28:56,614 --> 00:28:57,958 然後練了一陣子呢

737 00:28:58,086 --> 00:28:59,622 我就找同學說

738 00:28:59,686 --> 00:29:01,606 欸你看我最近練了這招

739 00:29:04,102 --> 00:29:05,050 好像很厲害這樣

740 00:29:06,148 --> 00:29:06,852 他沒有學過

741 00:29:06,916 --> 00:29:08,196 他就說是這樣嗎

742 00:29:10,256 --> 00:29:13,925 (尬起來欸)我說你很有天份欸

743 00:29:14,936 --> 00:29:16,600 我已經學了好幾個月

744 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,904 欸你們兩個尬起來了啊

745 00:29:19,224 --> 00:29:24,664 所以其實他也算是啟蒙老師(其實大家的天份都比我高啦)

746 00:29:24,728 --> 00:29:27,032 因為其實節奏感 大家很喜歡那種節奏感

747 00:29:27,096 --> 00:29:29,016 然後欸一下子就帶起氣氛

748 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,256 然後加上你又會吉他

749 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,792 然後音樂底子又好

750 00:29:32,856 --> 00:29:35,480 然後加上你又抓的到不一樣的

751 00:29:36,184 --> 00:29:37,400 創作(Tone調)

752 00:29:37,528 --> 00:29:39,128 對所以其實這樣組合起來

753 00:29:39,192 --> 00:29:41,432 要有一些創意啦(我覺得這很有自己的一個特色)

754 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,160 不簡單 不簡單

755 00:29:43,288 --> 00:29:46,424 第一個你想要像ECHO一樣

756 00:29:46,488 --> 00:29:48,024 Beatbox的那一個

757 00:29:48,088 --> 00:29:48,728 就這一個

758 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,392 沒錯像他這麼厲害

759 00:29:50,456 --> 00:29:53,144 當然能有多少個十七年

760 00:29:53,208 --> 00:29:54,808 可以像他這樣子下功夫

761 00:29:54,936 --> 00:29:56,216 沒有兩三年就

762 00:29:56,344 --> 00:29:57,497 兩三年就(出師了)

763 00:29:59,032 --> 00:30:02,171 因為現在ECHO他有開頻道教大家

764 00:30:02,171 --> 00:30:04,079 他真的是不藏私教大家

765 00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:04,798 這是第一個

766 00:30:04,798 --> 00:30:08,254 那再來第二個其實你平常自己對自己的要求

767 00:30:08,318 --> 00:30:09,150 我們剛剛欸

768 00:30:09,982 --> 00:30:10,750 他都喝水

769 00:30:10,814 --> 00:30:11,710 然後再來勒

770 00:30:11,838 --> 00:30:12,926 他平常的運動

771 00:30:12,990 --> 00:30:16,190 肺活量的訓練是很紮實的

772 00:30:16,318 --> 00:30:18,430 所以想要學的人

773 00:30:18,494 --> 00:30:21,630 其實真的是可以偶爾來一段來一段

774 00:30:21,758 --> 00:30:23,486 你會覺得真的很有趣

775 00:30:23,678 --> 00:30:24,510 非常有趣

776 00:30:24,574 --> 00:30:25,982 因為我為了(可以交朋友)

777 00:30:26,046 --> 00:30:27,454 也蠻有幫助的

778 00:30:28,286 --> 00:30:29,886 交朋友 只有交朋友嗎

779 00:30:30,846 --> 00:30:32,254 不然要交什麼

780 00:30:33,982 --> 00:30:36,286 就大家還蠻有興趣的

781 00:30:36,350 --> 00:30:37,630 但我們今天不聊

782 00:30:37,694 --> 00:30:39,550 我們下一集再聊好不好

783 00:30:39,870 --> 00:30:40,574 好啦

784 00:30:40,702 --> 00:30:43,902 今天真的很開心就是邀請到ECHO李昶俊

785 00:30:43,966 --> 00:30:48,446 那最後我們要請他幫我們來一首就是

786 00:30:48,702 --> 00:30:51,198 期待再相會好不好

787 00:30:53,695 --> 00:30:54,683 啊不然就是來個

788 00:30:54,683 --> 00:30:55,323 起個key

789 00:30:57,464 --> 00:31:00,664 好啦跟我們觀眾朋友就是說下次再見

790 00:31:00,664 --> 00:31:01,880 那如果在

791 00:31:02,648 --> 00:31:04,312 那個健身房遇到ECHO的話

792 00:31:04,376 --> 00:31:05,912 一定要跟他打招呼

793 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,888 同時要問他槓片掉落的聲音

794 00:31:08,952 --> 00:31:11,576 到底要怎麼樣發聲好不好

795 00:31:11,576 --> 00:31:12,363 可以可以

796 00:31:12,363 --> 00:31:12,906 可以 好不好

797 00:31:12,906 --> 00:31:17,898 我們下一次就期待那個ECHO幫我們準備好槓片掉落的聲音

798 00:31:17,898 --> 00:31:19,946 今天我們謝謝ECHO

799 00:31:20,413 --> 00:31:21,290 謝謝大家

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